The Avalyn Digest Wed May 14, 1997 Volume 2 : Issue 09 There are 32 messages totalling 788 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. slowdive b-sides 2. Re-releases 3. slowdive for sale 4. Another small CD sale 5. LYRICS TO PRECIOUS ONE 6. Silver Screen (2) 7. concert 8. Auction slowdive 9. Watching the Silver Screen ? 10. Mojave 3's lineup 11. Rachel's mass mailing 12. That domain name does not exist. 13. Non-Slowdive (2) 14. slowdive 15. Meriel Barham? bleh (2) 16. Swervedriver 99TH DREAM 17. Meriel Barham? = "Etheriel" 18. Subscribing to the Digest 19. Slowdive photograph 20. slowdive delusions 21. anxious for Mojave release! 22. Slowdive BBC Peel Session 23. slowdive CDs (2) 24. word to your mother (2) 25. fsa - wow! 26. ride dissapointment 27. Ride --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 04:21:29 -0400 (EDT) From: butterfly mcqueen Subject: Re: slowdive b-sides >If it is the one someone posted about to the 4AD mailing list a while ago: >With help from Susan on this list (Hi Susan! :-)), I think we have identified >it as their gig in Toronto, May 20th, 1994 - which is pretty easy to >obtain on tape. Nah, it's a comp of eps and bsides direct from cd. It has: slowdive avalyn I morningrise she calls losing today catch the breeze golden hair shine albatross in mind some velvet morning avalyn II so tired moussaka chaos missing you (edit) ; ed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 13:12:46 -0500 (CDT) From: sara Subject: Re-releases i posted awhile ago about the re-releases...i was wondering if holding our breath was going to be re-released...well, anyway it looks like everything except for blue day has been re-released. i found HOB at let it be records in minneapolis (yay!) they also had everything else except for blue day on vinyl. maybe it was re-released but it was sold out? anyway they have a web page at: http://www.letitbe.com if anyone's interested in getting these. sara ------------------------------ Date: 30 Apr 1997 15:11:04 PST From: avalyn@wgserv.baudtown.com Subject: slowdive for sale I mean.. Someone recently posted a web address that was selling a bunch of their eps..I accidentally deleted it and if someone could forward me that address or repost it that would be really great. Thanks. Stella ------------------------------- Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 22:54:09 -0400 (EDT) From: butterfly mcqueen Subject: Another small CD sale Apologies for the crosspost. Here we go again, but this time the selection is more apropos. These are things that I used to but no longer listen to. I'll go for trades; a list of preferences are at the end of this post. All prices are postage paid within the U.S., and please send inquiries to . Thanks! ; ed $12 Autechre Tri Repetae++ with Anvil Vapre/Garbage EPs tacked on as second CD (promo stamp) $6 Bleach Killing Time $8 Cocteau Twins Victorialand $8 Cocteau Twins Blue Bell Knoll $12 Cocteau Twins s/t promo for box set (1991, 10 songs, some from EPs and some previously unreleased) $7 Leonard Cohen Various Positions $6 Eno/Laraaji Ambient 3: Day of Radiance $5 House of Love Audience with the Mind $9 Loop A Guilded Eternity $5 Lotion Full Isaac $8 Main Motion Pool $6 Manic Street Preachers Everything Must Go $7 Pale Saints Slow Buildings (promo stamp) $6 Scenic Acquatica $9 Silvania Delay Tambor $7 Spiny Anteaters Current $6 Verve No Come Down (B-Sides & Outtakes) comps ----- $6 Artificial Intelligence II (on Warp Records) $4 If I Were A Carpenter (various modern rock hipsters cover Carpenters) $5 This is Fort Apache (although somewhat mainstream, not bad at all) misc. cheap promo shite ----------------------- $4 Brad Shame $4 Definition of Sound Experience $4 Emmet Swimming Arlington to Boston $4 Samiam Billy $4 Satchel EDC $4 Satchel The Family $4 Shamen Boss Drum $4 Shamen En-Tact Stuff I would especially love to trade for ------------------------------------------ - Seely: Julie Only (full version, not the truncated promo) - FSA: s/t (Rural Psychedelia), Further, Sally Free & Easy, Live (HermesCorp) - Laika: Sounds of the Satellites - Roy Montgomery: Scenes from a South Island, Temple IV - Charalambides: Market Square - MBV: Feed Me With Your Kiss, You Made Me Realise EPs - Third Eye Foundation: any 7" appearances Thanks for looking this over. ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 01:01:11 -0400 (EDT) From: lorelei tremolor Subject: band seeks help hey everyone, sorry about the crossposting... my band is in the process of doing a cd-ep deal thing and is in need of a lawyer to help write out the contract... can anybody recommend anyone? can anyone give me some advice on the situation? wise words of advice would be helpful... we've gone through this kind of bureaucrap before, but we are in search of a different lawyer. please please please help us out if you can! btw, my band is closer... we just played with velour 100 last night... lorraine ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 15:39:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Moonstar9@aol.com Subject: LYRICS TO PRECIOUS ONE hi, i know this may be asking a lot but now that i know what song is at the end of the cd, does anyone know where i can get the lyrics to Precious One or anyother chapterhouse songs for that matter? Jared -------------------------------- Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 08:29:35 -0500 From: David Elyas Sanchez Vasquez Subject: Silver Screen Yes, "Silver Screen" ....I got it in the "Goteburg/Magazinet" concert, is just amazing !!!...why it was not released in just for a day, too? And would be great if anybody have the lyrics !!..please email me about .. regards, David. ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 08:29:37 -0500 From: David Elyas Sanchez Vasquez Subject: Re: concert > g'day avalyners, > > I stumbled across one of long lost photo's from the Toronto concert > (touring with James) and if anyone can view bitmap or jpeg images let me > know. Ohh David !!..just, i can see it :-)....can you send me this photo ? Besides have you ever heard Silvania? chao, David. ------------------------------- Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 03:45:46 PDT From: "michael nicki barrett" Subject: Auction slowdive Hi everyone I have something to Auction Volume 7 cd (the one which has "some velvet morning" and nice pics and article. It also has live Verve ,seefeel and the boo radleys. E-mail offers to Tedium@hotmail.com. Thanks Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 17:58:07 +0200 From: Jan.Sundstrom@ekuc.se (Jan Sundstrom) Subject: Re: Silver Screen dVasquez@envirolink.org,Internet writes: > Yes, "Silver Screen" ....I got it in the "Goteburg/Magazinet" concert, > is just amazing !!!...why it was not released in just for a day, too? I guess it's my copy of Goteburg out circulating?! ;-) The radio broadcast, right? I went to three shows on that tour (Gavle, Uppsala, Stockholm, and taped them all, including one soundcheck and a small interview). I haven't listened to them for a while, but i know Watching the Silver Screen was played several times. > And would be great if anybody have the lyrics !!. I might sit down and find out something... >> All four are brilliant, and are along the lines of the Morningrise >> EP and also in the vein of Albatross. Agree, and the live songs are much moore groovy and dynamic than the album. Jan ------------------------------- Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 15:03:46 -0500 From: David Elyas Sanchez Vasquez Subject: Watching the Silver Screen ? Hi!! > I guess it's my copy of Goteburg out circulating?! ;-) The radio > broadcast, right? Yes, is the radio broadcast ..and i really don't knew it was a copy from you :-) > I went to three shows on that tour (Gavle, Uppsala, Stockholm, and > taped them all, including one soundcheck and a small interview). I > haven't listened to them for a while, but i know Watching the Silver > Screen was played several times. I see...well, maybe you can help with a song . When i got this Goteburg/Magazinet there was a song before ...i don't know what's the name ..so i puted in the tape "?"...maybe you know? >> And would be great if anybody have the lyrics !!. > I might sit down and find out something... Would be really great ... >>> All four are brilliant, and are along the lines of the Morningrise >>> EP and also in the vein of Albatross. > > Agree, and the live songs are much moore groovy and dynamic than the > album. That's true !!...but i think are most dynamic when was playing Simon Scott..when In McCutcheon entered i think it was most slow .... David. ------------------------------- Date: 6 May 1997 00:31:20 PST From: avalyn@wgserv.baudtown.com Subject: Mojave 3's lineup Do you guys remember Poppy Gonzales? I remember rumours of making her a permanent member but then she left for "personal reasons," not that I was very enthusiastic about her in the first place. She was actually reminiscent of Roger O'Donnell, to me.. Is there a replacement out there? Is it still their friend Christopher? sennen -------------------------------- Date: 6 May 1997 00:15:16 PST From: avalyn@wgserv.baudtown.com Subject: Rachel's mass mailing I thought it would be nice to post it for everyone's benefit. So..bleh. sennen A recent message from Rachel Goswell (20/3/97) : HI there! we have just finished demoing new material and will be releasing 2-3 singles this year followed by a long player. I would imaginen the release date of the first record will be June/July. Sorry for not giving a personal reply but I have tons of e-mail to catch up on, as I am a lazy sod (I would be really - it's a general mailt in the musical field!). However warm regards, and thankyou for taking the trouble to write to us! We do appreciate all To answer some questions that some of you have answered (believe me I do read all mail that comes to my computer but often find mmyself typing out similair messages to people):okay here goes. I cannot, I repeat, not help people in locating any old slowdive records> I have no thing to do with distribution of anything. Slowdive split up around three years ago now, and although I love the records we made, it was time for us all to move. It was time to do something very different, and Nick & Christian left because they wanted to; and because they were bored with the whole scene. However Neil, Ian & I decided to continue and were lucky enough to be picked up by 4AD. Slowdive is something that is now firmlly in the past for us. SO I can't help people in locating old records, and there is no longer merchandise available. Thankyou to everyone that has written in saying they have enjoyed shows that they have seen, and a special message, yes I do still have the cushion! Yes, we will eventually come back over to Toronto at some point. It is one of my favourite places and the country and some people there are very dear to my heart. It is in a way my second home. I couldn't tell you when we will be touring oversea's ; though it will start up when we release the album. At the moment that is set for October time. Meriel Barham (or whatever her name is) was never in Slowdive. There is no connection between us and the Pale Saints. The only side line I have ever done was backing vox on Chapterhouse's "Pearl". I have finally started writing my own songs, so maybe you might get to hear some on new releases. Stranger things have happened.... For the few people over in Ireland that e-mail me; I do hope that this year we will finally come over. None of us have ever had the pleasure of visiting before, and believe me we are eager to come over there. We have been told many stories of the beauty. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 06:33:04 -0400 From: larry@interlog.com (Laszlo Panaflex) Subject: Re: That domain name does not exist. > Meriel Barham (or whatever her name is) was never in Slowdive. There is > no connection between us and the Pale Saints. Except that you did some gigs with them, and they weren't especially friendly, right? ------------------------------- Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 15:41:54 -0700 From: PUBLIC WORKSTATION Subject: Non-Slowdive Hello! I am deeply sorry if I led others to believe that the sound of the Trash Can Sinatras are similiar to Slowdive. But I will add this note -- they have a b-side song from a 1993 single that is very brillant, and sounds uncannily like Slowdive; the title of the song is "Skindiving" (i know what you are thinking). Please lend you ears to their sounds aye. They have completed three albums, and I am starting to believe that their third album, released in 1996, is the most marvelous. Their first album, entitled "Cake", was quite a popular gem. It is likewise an addictive album. Kind Regards, Charles ----------------------------- Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 15:34:54 -0700 From: PUBLIC WORKSTATION Subject: slowdive I will let you know if I still need a copy of "Pygmalion". Rhino Records in Claremont CA. is trying to obtain it for me still. Thanks, Charles P.S. Rhino Records is filled with delightful Slowdive rarities. Their telephone number is (909)626-7774. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 18:12:08 CDT From: timethief@juno.com (Luis B. Abcede) Subject: Re: Non-Slowdive Trash Can Sinatras are great, but I prefer the first (s/t) album. They're more of a jangly (sometimes cowpokey) guitar pop in the Smiths' sense. Dig it, Luis ------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 16:48:27 -0700 From: miker@ucla.edu (monochrome) Subject: Meriel Barham? bleh > A recent message from Rachel Goswell (20/3/97) : > > Meriel Barham (or whatever her name is) was never in Slowdive. There is > no connection between us and the Pale Saints. This is just a public service anouncement for any of you who might have been bothering poor Rachel with this question. Meriel was originally going to be the lead singer of lush. She ended up leaving to spend more time with her boyfriend, but Miki (of lush) ended up getting her the gig with Pale Saints. Which reminds me, is the starlust mailing list still alive at all? ...mike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 19:56:01 -0500 From: mps2@cec.wustl.edu (Michael Peter Stein) Subject: Swervedriver 99TH DREAM I've got some friends who are trying to hunt down the latest Swervedrive album 99th Dream. It seems it was scrapped here in the States. Since this is probably the closest thing to a Swervedriver list, I was wondering if any one out there knows where I can find this album??? Thanks, -Mike ------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 11:41:48 +1000 From: Anthony <932228@bud.cc.swin.edu.au> Subject: Re: Meriel Barham? bleh >This is just a public service anouncement for any of you who might have been >bothering poor Rachel with this question. Meriel was originally going to be >the lead singer of lush. She ended up leaving to spend more time with her >boyfriend, but Miki (of lush) ended up getting her the gig with Pale Saints. I thought she was the lead singer of lush at one stage, and that was where they got the name for the song 'Etheriel', meaning Ethen & Meriel. (Ethen being her boyfriend). >Which reminds me, is the starlust mailing list still alive at all? I subscribed to it, got a welcoming message, then have heard nothing since then. Maybe it is dead. Anthony. 932228@bud.swin.edu.au --------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 00:29:48 -0400 (EDT) From: lorelei tremolor Subject: Re: Meriel Barham? = "Etheriel" On Tue, 6 May 1997, monochrome wrote: > bothering poor Rachel with this question. Meriel was originally going to be > the lead singer of lush. She ended up leaving to spend more time with her > boyfriend, but Miki (of lush) ended up getting her the gig with Pale Saints. the lush song "etheriel" is all about meriel's leaving... apparently meriel spent so much time with her boyfriend "ethan". ethan + meriel = "etheriel" lorelei ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 13:39:30 -0700 From: Dan Smith Subject: Subscribing to the Digest Hello- My name is Dan Smith. I would very much like to get onto the live version of the digest. I have wanted very much to respond to several topics brought up in the digest, and also to inquire about several possible resources to pick up Slowdive ep's from (specificly, the statements made about LA being a hot bed for ep activity). My e-mail address is signboy@hotmail.com Thanks Dan Smith ------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 18:40:53 -0400 From: Gordon Brown Subject: Slowdive photograph Someone posted a Slowdive photograph, if they are still out there could they please tell me where it was taken and if they could send it again in a different format that would be great (my computer couldn't show it) Thanks for the help. ---------------------------------- Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 16:03:50 -0700 From: PUBLIC WORKSTATION Subject: slowdive delusions I walk into stores and order items from Slowdive like Blue Day and Holding our Breath. They say that it is certain to come thru. Later I find out that they cannot for an import reason. Are they only available thru Germany? If so they why can't indie record stores order from Germany? Truly they would be costly, but it is a resort. Kind Regards, Charles --------------------------------- Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 16:00:50 -0700 From: PUBLIC WORKSTATION Subject: anxious for Mojave release! When will the new album come out? Do you think that it will revisit the sounds of Slowdive, or remaim acoustic? I am in anxious hopes that Neil and Rachel do not depart from the slow and sometimes too depressing sounds of Ask Me Tommorow. It is one of the most beautiful albums ever released. Kind Regards, Charles ----------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 13:53:08 -0400 (EDT) From: ALTONBARNS@aol.com Subject: Slowdive BBC Peel Session Hi! Just a thought! One way of releasing some new slowdive material would be if as many of us as possible wrote to John Peel at the BBC asking for the Slowdive Peel Session to be released. Many other bands have had their tracks released on CD (Strange Fruit label), why not Slowdive? Well, my letters in the post!! John Peel B.B.C. Broadcasting House London W1A 1AA Nick ---------------------------------- Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 00:57:23 -0700 From: al dente Subject: slowdive CDs I'm pretty new to slowdive and am trying to obtain any slowdive CDs I can. The feeling I get after being on this list for a while is that everyone's pretty much on their own. That is, that there is no one reliable place to find the CDs in America or abroad. I'm in Southern California and have been calling stores for the past two weeks with not a lot of luck. Found copies of Slouvaki, but not Pygmalion, at import prices only ($25.99). Am I right in this assumption? Have most of slowdive's CDs been released only as imports in the USA? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 97 20:36:38 -0500 From: agentc Subject: word to your mother Wow, after reading the last two digests I remembered why I unsubscribed to this list. Yuck. To the oaf saying it's "A-OK" to steal previously published songs, put them on a CD and distribute them just because it's only going to fans: You display amazing feats of oligophrenia. Taking the property of others and giving it away as your own is most definitely in violation of international copyright laws. Grow a cereberal cortex. By the way, the name of the *ASSHOLE* that's helping to scalp off the "slowdive rarities" bootleg CD is David Stack - he is doubtlessly one of the most heinous people I have ever had the extreme and intense displeasure to speak with. This sac of bile doesn't see any problem with selling the hard work and artistic integrity of the members of slowdive so he can make a dollar. COME ON, DAVE - do you REALLY think that we believe that it costs nearly $30 to record a CD-R? *GET REAL*. You are exploiting art for a profit, in a much more base way than any record company ever could. And you claim to be a FAN. Sure. I strongly urge anyone reading this to deny Mr. Stack his coke-money by boycotting the garbage he's selling. As an alternative, I suggest that those of us who HAVE these hard-to-find discs and a CD-ROM drive should save these tracks as MP3s, the latest compressed audio format from MPEG. At about 1MB per minute of stereo CD-quality sound, I don't think it would take long for us to have the entire contents of the semi-rare EPs *ON-LINE*. In fact, I have So Tired (b-side of Outside Your Room) all ready to go as an MP3 at 3.7 MB. (I also have both 5EPs, Morningrise, and their self-titled EP on compact disc, I could easily make all of these recordings MP3s.) If anyone here has the b-sides of Holding Our Breath, and has the know how to make them MP3's, e-mail me. (agentc@flash.net) Yes, I too suggest these songs be distributed to dedicated fans, BUT since these records are OUT OF PRINT and the artists can't collect anymore royalties, their songs should be *GIVEN* away, and not used to promote individual's personal interests (David Stack). Come on, people. This is what the internet is for. -------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 01:01:07 -0400 From: avalyn@chesco.com Subject: Re: slowdive CDs At 12:57 AM 5/8/97 -0700, you wrote: >I'm pretty new to slowdive and am trying to obtain any slowdive CDs I can. >The feeling I get after being on this list for a while is that everyone's >pretty much on their own. That is, that there is no one reliable place to >find the CDs in America or abroad. I'm in Southern California and have >been calling stores for the past two weeks with not a lot of luck. Found >copies of Slouvaki, but not Pygmalion, at import prices only ($25.99). > >Am I right in this assumption? Have most of slowdive's CDs been released >only as imports in the USA? The only recordings released by a US label were Just For a Day and Souvlaki. All the import singles and whatnot were pretty easy to find awhile back and I still see a few here and there. I know the record store I go to has Pygmalion of vinyl and an ep or two on cd. Infact they had a used 5ep not too long ago. You should be able to find Souvlaki anywhere. Though i haven't looked in awhile so maybe you can't since SBK is no longer. The import of Souvlaki is nicer anyway. Check out www.reporecords.com That's the store i frequent and then now do mail order I think. They don't have a full listing but just ask em what slowdive they have and they'll tell ya. bye ryan -------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 10:58:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Claire De Leon! Subject: Re: word to your mother > By the way, the name of the *ASSHOLE* that's helping to scalp off the > "slowdive rarities" bootleg CD is David Stack - he is doubtlessly one of > the most heinous people I have ever had the extreme and intense > displeasure to speak with. This sac of bile doesn't see any problem with > selling the hard work and artistic integrity of the members of slowdive > so he can make a dollar. COME ON, DAVE - do you REALLY think that we *snip!* > Come on, people. This is what the internet is for. Yeah, you are right. It's not for slagging/flaming, so maybe you should get off it... Daniel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 10:37:54 +1000 (EST) From: KRATHYN WHITE Subject: fsa - wow! flying saucer attack's "at night" on the split 7" with jessamine is a revelation. i didn't know whether to laugh or cry when i first heard it in my hazy glass eyed state. it amazes me even more than slowdive i'm afraid to say. yours in pastoral australian boredom and long drives into the country krathyn ps: just got ask me tomorrow - just found relief. -------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 11:59:32 -0700 From: PUBLIC WORKSTATION Subject: ride dissapointment Hello! I must say that I was quite dissapointed by Ride's "Trauntula". It is a sheer upset! I was was delighted by the groovy sounds of "COL" that this release got me down. I do favor "Smile," but can anyone be nice enough to tell me if the other albums are in the same league with "COL"? Regards, ---------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 13:52:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Gage Crump Subject: re: Ride no, the other albums are not in the same league as "COL" (which i suppose is Carnival of Light). They are phenomenally better. "Nowhere" is one of the three greatest albums of all time (along with "Loveless" and s/t Stone Roses), perhaps the best. every song on this album has at one time been my favorite. Right now "Decay" is, especially played extremely loud with an ear pressed to a speaker. "smile" is great as well. "Today Forever" is one of the greatest e.p.'s ever released. "Going Blank Again" was the transition to the horrific demise, and is merely OK. The "Leave Them All Behind" e.p. is better to have than the whole "Going Blank Again" album. It is shame that this band has changed so much for the worse, for they had such potential. I saw them in Providence 1991 and my friend commented that it was the greatest moment of his life. 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