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tariqas-digest Tuesday, 3 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 122
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From: maarof <maarof@pc.jaring.my>
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 01:39:13 +0800
Subject: Re: Pictures anybody?
On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, dave wrote:
>Michael J. Moore writes:
>
> You are a very diverse type of guy. I too am a Babylon 5 fan.
> I like to draw parallels between the religions portrayed
> on this series and real world religions. I find myself wishing
> that the writers would probe these matters a little more
> deeply. :-)
>
>Interestingly, for the purposes of this group and our recent
>discussion on atheists, the creator and primary writer for the show,
>J. Michael Straczynski, is a confirmed atheist. That he is able to
>write so convincingly on such subjects is worthy of some thought.
>
> Dave Barton <*>
> dlb@wash.inmet.com )0(
> http://www.intermetrics.com/~dlb
>
Assalamualaikum,
There was a short run on Babylon 5 here. And the ST series currently running
is DS9. IMO, Spock of ST series is the first of tv sci-fi mystic. However,
I find the "religion" potrayed in Babylon-5 or DS9 as too shallow - a stereotype
"monks" who acted like robots.
My favourite character is the secular Ferangi shop-owner in DS9. He talks sense
most of the times.
salam
maarof
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From: Well333@turbonet.com (Jacquie Weller)
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 10:23:03 +0100
Subject: Peace
Peace takes no political sides.
Muslims, Kurds, Jewish, Neighbors All
Just bend the knee and pray today
That peace and love will reign
That neighbors won't be bullies.
May Peace begin with us
Lets build some bridges with
Simple prayer for harmony and
May leaders bow in humility
To tolerance and love.
Of course many are skeptical and
Think that nothing ever changes
But let's not give in to negative
despair and hopelessness.
Just bow our heads instead as
Common citizens of God
And ask in faith for hope
That people will learn to
Cherish Peace.
Nothing is too hard
When all of us believe
Together we pray
For Peace and the end
Of bitter wars...
Kaffea lalla
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From: Jawad Qureshi <c640429@cclabs.missouri.edu>
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:20:07 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Sabri Brothers
On Sat, 31 Aug 1996, John Womack wrote:
> Greetings All. Our local paper tells of the " ... Sabri Brothers, a
> popular Pakistani musical performance group, will bring its mystical tones
> of Qawwali, the devotional music of the Sufi sect of Islam, to UNCA ..." on
> 30 October. I have not heard of them, and I wondered if anyone on the list
> might like to make a comment concerning them? John.
>
Salam,
The Sabri brothers are possibly the best qawwali performers in the world
after Nusrat. In fact, some people, such as myself, prefer Sabri Brothers
to Nusrat - though I always have either of them in my car. I think that
there songs, lyrically, are easier to get into, because they use more
Urdu, whereas Nusrat's best songs are ussually in Punjabi. Also, the
level of Urdu that they use is very accessiblr for someone like me.
There songs, in all honesty, are INTENSE. Lyrically, and musically.
There is a CD out from REALWORLD by the Sabri Brothers, that has one of
the most "drunk" songs that I have ever come across. I would highyl
recommend that you go, if that's what your into.
Although, I was told by many that the older brother passed away of a heart
attack recently, so that should change their music around tremendously,
because he was very powerful.
Wa salam,
Jawad.
____________________
"The Enduring One! You are the Enduring One!"
The most helpless slave of al-Rahman al-Ghufoor al-Wudood:
Jawad Anwar ibn Muhammad Anwar al-Qureshi
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From: "Michael J. Moore" <mmoore@antares.Tymnet.COM>
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 11:40:08 -0700
Subject: Re: Paraclete #1 (short side bar)
As for the appropriateness of this topic on this mail list,
I would say that it is very appropriate. Islam confirms
the validity of prior revelations and scriptures with
the provison that they have not been altered or misrepresented.
So, it behooves muslims to understand as much we can about
Christanity. Also, some believe that Jesus was a sufi, so,
there is a connection there.
On a personal note, I lived a Catholic childhood. During my
religions education, I cannot ever remembering having heard
the phrase "The Prophet Jesus". Also, I can't recall having
ever heard this term used by Protestants either in person
or on the countless hours of Christian Talk Radio that I have
listended to.
This seems to be a bridge that is difficult for native born
Muslims to understand. Jesus is considered by Christians
to be God in the flesh while simultaneously there is still
God in the sky (speaking metaphoricaly) and the Holy Spirit.
Not 3 Gods, but 3 views, like Rumi's Elephant story.
To call Jesus a Prophet is almost an insult as it would
be to call Mohammad pbuh a merchant. True, he was a merchant,
but the overemphasis of this one aspect does not do justice.
Just as it is true that Jesus was a Prophet, but to emphasize
the prophetic aspect of Jesus is not seen by Christians
as doing him justice.
Now the whole of modern mainline Christanity is base on the
ideas the Jesus was divinity and that he died on the cross.
Almost 2 billion people see it this way.
Without both of these ideas in tact, then Christanity
becomes some other religion. So, it is easy to see that
when Islam denies both of these points, Christians will
take exception.
Well, these are just my private observations, right or wrong
as they may be.
- --
Michael J. Moore
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From: woodsong@juno.com (Carol Woodsong)
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 14:35:18 EDT
Subject: Re: Peace
The Great Invocation
>From the point of Light within the Mind of God
Let light stream forth into the minds of men.
Let Light descend on Earth.
>From the point of Love within the Heart of God
Let love stream forth into the hearts of men.
May Christ return to Earth.
>From the center where the Will of God is known
Let purpose guide the little wills of men --
The purpose which the Masters know and serve.
>From the center which we call the race of men
Let the plan of Love and Light work out.
And may it seal the door where evil dwells.
Let Light and Love and Power restore the Plan on Earth.
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From: maarof <maarof@pc.jaring.my>
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 03:17:34 +0800
Subject: Gospel of Barnabas (re: Paraclete #1)
On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Farid wrote:
>
>Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah,
[...]
>I must admit, the "Gospel of Barnabas" story has many interesting aspects,
>however, to my understanding there is very strong evidence that what
>we have of this text is either a medievel forgery, or else could be based
>on an earlier document which was then altered in medievel times....
>
>I personally am skeptical about the authenticity of this book....
>
[...]
>Wassalam,
>
>Fariduddien
>
Assalamualaikum,
If it is not authentic, i.e written by someone, then what is the motive?
One reason proposed is that it was written during Crusade (?), and to convert
Christians (probably in Palestine?) to Islam.
I think this the common reaction to book or books that is not in line with
one's or group's view. So, I can accept why the Christians reject the
Gospel of Barnabas.
Personally, I think the main reason why Gospel of Barnabas is considered
"not a Christian" book, is because it contains the word AHMAD, and in it
JESUS clearly indicate that he is a messenger of God.
I wonder if there is no word AHMAD in Gospel of Barnabas, will the Christians
accept it?
A side note: I was reading Gospel of Barnabas in a bus, a Muslim next
to me looked strangely at me. Well, it is not a good idea reading a bible
in public if you are a Muslim, even though it is only the Gospel of Barnabas :)
salam
maarof
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From: BRYAN CONN <s001blc@discover.wright.edu>
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 15:21:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: The Most Beautiful Names (4) Al-Maleek
Assalaamu Alaikum
The following is another installment of "The Most Beautiful Names",
compiled by Sheikh Tosun Bayrak, published by Threshold Books, Amana
Books.
_____________________________________________________________________
Bismillah ir-Rahmaan ir-Raheem
In the name of Allah, the Beneficient, the Merciful
_____________________________________________________________________
_
AL,MALIK
He is the Owner of the universe, of the whole creation the
absolute Ruler. Allah is the only Ruler of the entire universe,
visible and invisible, and of all creation, from before the beginning
and after the end. There is none like Him because He is the Creator
of His kingdom, which He created from nothing. Only He knows
the size of His kingdom, the number of its population, and the
strength of His armies. Only His will, His rule and His justice
exist. What happens is what He wills; what He does not will will
never happen.
Servants of Allah who come to know their Master, finding the
meaning of that divine name in themselves, will become sober from
the drunkenness of counting their fortunes, their high positions
and their fame as their own. Those who have served worldly kings
as gods will wish for the Master of their masters.
_________________________________________________________________
Salaam,
Bryan
I reached my hand to touch you.
You struck it down.
"Why are you so harsh with me?"
For good reason. But certainly not
to keep you away!
-Rumi
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From: maarof <maarof@pc.jaring.my>
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 03:37:49 +0800
Subject: Re: Paraclete #1 (short side bar)
Assalamualaikum,
What are the views of Christianity on Abraham and Moses? Is it similar
to Islam?
Thanks for your post Michael. I'm ignorant on lots of things.
salam
Maarof
On Tue, 03 Sep 1996, "Michael J. Moore" <mmoore@antares.Tymnet.COM> wrote:
[...]
>To call Jesus a Prophet is almost an insult as it would
>be to call Mohammad pbuh a merchant. True, he was a merchant,
>but the overemphasis of this one aspect does not do justice.
>Just as it is true that Jesus was a Prophet, but to emphasize
>the prophetic aspect of Jesus is not seen by Christians
>as doing him justice.
[...]
>
>--
>Michael J. Moore
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From: Craig Johannsen <johan@Ultranet.ca>
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 13:09:48 -0700
Subject: Re: Paraclete #1 (short side bar)
Michael J. Moore wrote:
>
> [snip] During my
> religions education, I cannot ever remembering having heard
> the phrase "The Prophet Jesus". Also, I can't recall having
> ever heard this term used by Protestants either in person
> or on the countless hours of Christian Talk Radio that I have
> listended to.
Unitarians generally think (and sometimes speak) of Jesus as
a prophet rather than a divinity. (They accept the validity
of most other religions, seeing each as a different path to
the Truth. However, they assume no one has a monopoly on the
Truth.)
> [snip]
> Now the whole of modern mainline Christanity is base on the
> ideas the Jesus was divinity and that he died on the cross.
> Almost 2 billion people see it this way.
> Without both of these ideas in tact, then Christanity
> becomes some other religion.
> [snip]
Mainstream Christians typically say that Unitarians are
"not really Christians".
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From: woodsong@juno.com (Carol Woodsong)
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 17:10:11 EDT
Subject: Re: Paraclete #1)
blessed greetings, brother maarof!
>I wonder if there is no word AHMAD in Gospel of Barnabas, will the
Christians
>accept it?
Depends on which Christian you ask. :)
If the Gospel of Barnabas speaks of the Love that Jesus taught, then /i/
(not knowing WHAT i might be! :) accept it regardless of what 'words' are
used. :)
love & peace,
carol
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From: frank gaude <frank@sierra.net>
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 14:31:56 -0700
Subject: Re: Paraclete #1 (short side bar)
Craig Johannsen wrote:
> Unitarians generally think (and sometimes speak) of Jesus as
> a prophet rather than a divinity. (They accept the validity
> of most other religions, seeing each as a different path to
> the Truth. However, they assume no one has a monopoly on the
> Truth.)
> Mainstream Christians typically say that Unitarians are
> "not really Christians".
Seems to me to be a follower of Jesus, i.e., a Christian, would only
require that one keep the commandment that he gave as the "full law and
prophets": Love God with your whole being, and love your neighbor as
yourself. Simple, in theory! <smile>
Good, no one has a monopoly Truth... Good and Truth equate to God as
"written" the Book of Nature.
Peace and love, down silver threads of gold,
tanzen
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From: "Michael J. Moore" <mmoore@antares.Tymnet.COM>
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 14:45:08 -0700
Subject: Re: Paraclete #1 (short side bar)
maarof wrote:
>
> Assalamualaikum,
>
> What are the views of Christianity on Abraham and Moses? Is it similar
> to Islam?
>
> Thanks for your post Michael. I'm ignorant on lots of things.
>
> salam
> Maarof
I can only tell you about my own upbringing which I believe was pretty
much main stream Christianity, but I could be wrong.
Basicaly Abraham and Moses are minor characters. They are from
the Old Testament part of the Bible (the old Jewish tradition
and laws). Jesus brought a new covenant which means that he
superseded the existing Jewish laws. He does not contradict
the Jewish laws and indeed he says to follow them; these
laws being the Ten Commandments. For example
the old law says that you have a right to 'an eye for an eye,
a tooth for a tooth', in
other words the law of tribal blood rights. But Jesus said
'Turn the other cheek'. The law of Jesus was the law of
gnosis . The Jews said that it was unlawful to kill but
Jesus said that if you even thought about killing somebody
it was the same sin as if you had done the deed. So, the law
was eleveted from the relm of physical action to the relm of
spiritual ideas. It was recognized that a man could possibly
conform to all the Jewish laws, but all men would fall short
of the laws of perfection layed down by Jesus. All men
would fall into sin. If fact it is believed that all men
are born into sin except Jesus and his mother Mary. Mary
was born without sin and was a virgin. Her son, comming from
the sinless virgin and the thought of God was also sinless.
Now in Old Testament, sins could be forgiven by the letting
of blood; sacrifice of aminals. But Jesus upped the anti.
Since adherence to His law required the perfect man and
since every man falls short mere animals were not sufficient
for sacrifice. Only the sacrifice of perfection could atone
for failure to reach be perfect. The only perfect one was
Jesus. Without his perfection, he would not have been a
suitable sacrifice, and without the voluntary sacrifice
of the 'Son of God', man's sins could not be forgiven and
men would go to hell forever.
So, they would say in my chatechism classes 'Jesus died
for your sins.' Now as a child, I could never understand
this. It was as though a Judge, holding a man found
guilty of murder desided to accept another man as
a substitute to be executed! Rubbish! I thought.
Only receintly I learned a little about tribal blood
laws and how it was common place to retaliate
against any member of the offending tribe. You didn't
need to get the guy that did it, any member from that
tribe would do. This was the mentality of the people
in that place at that time, and so the sacrifice of
Jesus as a substitue for all of mankind made perfect
sense to them.
I recall reading somewhere that during the Councel of Niceia (sp)
when the Bible was pieced together, there was great debate
as to wether the Old testament was to be included at all!
So you can see that Moses and Abraham are only of incidental
importance to Christians but certanly not necessary for
salvation. Abraham showed that he was willing to do anything
God asked, and Moses explains how the 10 Commandments got
here and that is about it for most non-academic Christians.
Maybe in some world this it true, but allah is lord of
all the worlds. And allah knows best. :-)
- --
Michael J. Moore
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From: Jinavamsa@aol.com
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 18:44:40 -0400
Subject: Re: Paraclete #1 (short side bar)
to all,
in peace and love of al-Haqq (Allah, Reality, as Truth),
I think we have the potential for distortion whenever we learn about one
tradition through the eyes of another tradition which is trying to prove
itself superior to that first tradition.
The excerpts below might be taken as a reflection of this sort of teaching.
iOPO.
Jinavamsa
In a message dated 96-09-03 17:47:14 EDT, you write:
>
>Basicaly Abraham and Moses are minor characters. They are from
>the Old Testament part of the Bible (the old Jewish tradition
>and laws). Jesus brought a new covenant which means that he
>superseded the existing Jewish laws. He does not contradict
>the Jewish laws and indeed he says to follow them; these
>laws being the Ten Commandments. For example
>the old law says that you have a right to 'an eye for an eye,
>a tooth for a tooth', in
>other words the law of tribal blood rights. But Jesus said
>'Turn the other cheek'. The law of Jesus was the law of
>gnosis . The Jews said that it was unlawful to kill but
>Jesus said that if you even thought about killing somebody
>it was the same sin as if you had done the deed. So, the law
>was eleveted from the relm of physical action to the relm of
>spiritual ideas. It was recognized that a man could possibly
>conform to all the Jewish laws, but all men would fall short
>of the laws of perfection layed down by Jesus. All men
>would fall into sin. If fact it is believed that all men
>are born into sin except Jesus and his mother Mary. Mary
>was born without sin and was a virgin. Her son, comming from
>the sinless virgin and the thought of God was also sinless.
>
>Now in Old Testament, sins could be forgiven by the letting
>of blood; sacrifice of aminals. But Jesus upped the anti.
>Since adherence to His law required the perfect man and
>since every man falls short mere animals were not sufficient
>for sacrifice. Only the sacrifice of perfection could atone
>for failure to reach be perfect. The only perfect one was
>Jesus. Without his perfection, he would not have been a
>suitable sacrifice, and without the voluntary sacrifice
>of the 'Son of God', man's sins could not be forgiven and
>men would go to hell forever.
>
>
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From: pivotal@inxpress.net (Jabriel Hanafi)
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 17:43:19 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Allah, Rahman, Rahim,Malik
This is the last of the three drafts of poetry including the indrduction
inclusding Allah, Rahmna , Rahim and Mailk. I will send the one page prose
in a few days following up. If it serves as someone brings up the next name
I will send both the poetry and prose for that name which I will be using in
my new book. Love. Jabriel
INTRODUCTION
The following book is a description of the Ninety Nine Divine Names. These
Names are described as veils of light bringing one to the threshhold of the
awe expreienced within the epiphany of the Creator. Each name is presented
with its Arabic Hierolgiphic, a short narative which extends a more
scholaraly approach to definition, and a poem which has been extracted from
my own personal journal. Last but not least their has been an attempt to
phonetically transmit the proper sound of each name, although it is clear
that proper intonation of both Classical Arabic, Turkish, and other Central
Asian, Asian, and Far Eastern Communities lend particular cultural
diffrences. Islamic philosophy while geometrically mathamatic standing
elegant lends etreme subtely. Often books which have thus far extended
interpritations in English have carried with them a harsh sense of reality
which do not necessarily reflect much else but the author's own theological
bias which is often fundammentalist and often filled with threats, guilt and
fear. It is the intention in the prose descriptions of this book to
eliminate this extra bias. While one can acurately speak of these names as
the names of Allah it is important to note that Allah is but one of the
Ninety Nine Names.
Therefore this is not a book about Allah although often many of the Names
are like Chinesse Boxes contained within one another. Hopefully what this
book is about is a love affair between the writer and his Creator.
The Poetry
I right these poems with a mixture of love and fear. Love, because they
are about the highest ideal which can be pondered by my brothers and
sisters, fear because such a contemplation shatters the mind. With the
persona shattered what is left is a Truth which incinerates the structure
and foundation of the illusion of the ego. The illusion, as an idol in its
grossest application is normally conceived of as commerce or reality.
At least an attempt at being sober in heart, spirit, and mind has been thus
far the demand of this journey. Sobriety and balance has many plateaus.
Their relation to ecstasy is that they turn the very peaks of one's journey
into mere plains.
May I thus learn to honor the great teachers who have visited this small
planet as envoys of Truth by emulating in action that paradise might begin
with chopping wood and carrying water.
The goal of this work is to "show up". I have interpreted my presence on
this planet as a sketch from the drawing pad of God. Born as outlines of
what we are capable of becoming we have received a rare and rich gift. Like
all true gifts it comes from the Creator. For me it comes in the form of a
notion. I can select and even perhaps create my response to that which I
choose to perceive.
The Ninety Nine Beautiful Names is thus the study of how one might go about
seeing a Divine Reality everywhere and in everything. They are also an
attempt to draw a sketch of the Face of my Creator. This is an impossible
task. If every word of every book ever written were solely dedicated by a
consortium of the greatest writers and genius of the past and present, they
could not begin to express the magnitude, joy, nuturance, patience, and love
of Allah.
Yet the beauty of the very phonetic sounds of these names lend a fabric
which can be enjoyed not only by the five senses, but most importantly by an
intuition of the heart.
There is a nostalgia, a reaching, a desire within the process of what one
might call evolution. My inner child cries to transform this thing I call
myself into the fullest potential of what it means to be human.
My desire by the Grace of God seeks to be in union with my reason and my
spirit. This soul in its original vow has dedicated itself to the task of
being a type of worker in this world. I am a wild field as wide as any
field waiting to be ploughed. I am the weeds and a lump of clay waiting to
be harrowed. I learn from my dear sisters that I am the soil waiting to be
sown. I am the reaper waiting to be harvested, waiting to be annihilated.
I am nostalgic and praying for the Farmer.
My fear is that I have eroded. My hope is for a miracle: Splashing water
mixed with earth, the fire from the sun, clean air and ether lifts this face
in salutation towards the kiss of its Beloved.
This sketch was drawn on magic paper, drawn with magic ink , with a
landscape left unknown even to itself. It was left to be explored, to
cultivate itself. Its unmanageable terrain discovered that its powers lie
within the potential to surrender.
These poems are about my personal experiences of the ninety nine qualities
of the Divine Names. They are an attempt to share and to entice the reader
to seek those who know much more about these qualities so that the reader
may be extended one more direct path to the inner landscape of his or her
heart and being. My greatest joy would be that in some small way they
assisted anyone to remember the one and ultimate truth of la ilaha il lla
llah, There is no God, but God. Jabriel Sultan Munir Mahgoub Mohammed Yusuf
Hanafi
Allah
(an unknowable essence)
That the Name You call Yourself reverberates
through every vertebrae when I am asleep
makes me wonder what happens to my life
when others tell me that I'm awake.
That this Sound carries my soul at night
and a taste of another plane imprints itself
re-arranging molecules makes me wonder what Divine Excellence
could emerge if I could stand aside.
That once in prayer there was only You
and everything else including me had disappeared
and all that there was left to hold onto was the holding,
makes me wonder when certainty
will replace the illusion
the nightmare of separation,
the dawn's dreary dream
which we call reality will dissipate
and a presence will bloom ;
into that lucid moment prayed for
guilt free, broken covenant free :
The judgment day, complete release
unto Your Will directed by Your Love
and witnessed in praise through Your Grace
My Lord of Lords Ya Allah, Allah Hu Hu Hu!
Jabriel
RAHMAN
(Beneficence)
It's said the Beneficence exists
between the exhale and the inhale.
It's said that the Beneficence
slips in when the left hand falls asleep,
allowing the right to move in mystery
bringing the clarity of stars to shine upon the world.
It's said the beneficence begins
when the lover forgets that it is she that loves
and the wings of love set her back upon the earth alone,
with a diamond heart which radiates with love for you Allah.
It is said that the star in the crescent is Rahman in Rahim
one a light the other a womb carrying
a radiance of its reflection in the moon.
Jabriel
RAHIM
(Compassion)
Have mercy for the mask of this earthly king and slave,
and with a liquid drop of love lodged,
at the center, crush
this hard rock I call my heart,
and smooth this thwarted path.
Fill my drinking cup with pain for what am I
a black cracked thorn with faith but no belief
thoughtlessly cutting into flesh, spilling blood with fear,
as I live among imagined enemies, defending and attacking
the delusion of a world drowning and insane
Melt this mind and open vast the eye of certainty
so I may find the thief, the liar and the cheat
beaming with a light spilling new wine and
a valor wove from innocence
upon this antique prayer rug
leaving me, Your poor drunk, gone
and in my stead a soul lifting toward Your love
a heart turned upside down ,
a chivalry that's clean and does perceive
yet once again, the world with eyes which see Your perfect purity.
Heal through me the past of all humanity,
take this me and let it disappear.
Shine Rahhim through the hearts and deeds
of drunks, of idiots and of fools
heal my Lord this wound of desperation
shatter my Lord the false illusion
and the pride of insufferable separation
Jabriel
MALIK
I am a servant pretending to be a king
there is a king born in every child
the kingdom is never lost its just
stolen by another pronoun, pretending sovereignty
a time consuming game this forgetting
so that the remembering is nectar sweet.
I am a king willing to surrender
to let go this foolish blunder
of holding back my breath, reminding me of the ache
so that the remembering is rose bud sweet.
This accident which called itself into being
for the purpose of annihilation
can do nothing else but keep
the original vow
to sing the praises of its Lord
to bend its knees, to bow.
Jabriel
- -----------------------------------------
Jabriel Hanafi
Pivotal Point Dynamics
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